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VanceS looks back home.

VanceS teleports to the reception.

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ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] asks, "How as hiking in Oman?"

VanceS [back home] says, "strenuous, never dull except the tedium of uphill"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "always wanted to go there - I'm a desert rat at heart"

VanceS [back home] says, "desert, ocean, mountains, take your pick"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "all 3"

VanceS [back home] says, "I had 250 emails today, and have just deleted most of the spam (over 100 left)"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] exclaims, "wow!"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Hope I never get that many"

VanceS [back home] says, "haven't quite got to the WiA threads"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "me neither"

VanceS [back home] says, "how is our week going"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "pretty slow, I'd say. I guess they got enough theory during Week2"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "We had a good live

discussion on Wed."

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "will be posted"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Sus and I many talked

yesterday - more theory"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Nigel took the theatre

bait - big time"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "but that was about it"

VanceS [back home] says, "I guess I'll have a read-thru and post a summary"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "looking at yesterday's to

see if anyone responded"

VanceS [back home] says, "try to throw another question out"

VanceS [back home] says, "our DSL is not working, looking for a driver for it"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "OK, Sus said she would do that....but will do it, too"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "ah, she did"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Aiden responded - will see

what's happening"

VanceS [back home] says, "found it, arab names, al shamil (I was putting al-shamel)"

VanceS [back home] asks, "anything interesting yet?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "not yet"

VanceS [back home] says, "I've seen their email, just don't know where to begin"

VanceS [back home] says, "didn't get home till 5 this a.m."

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] asks, "Wow, did you sleep?"

VanceS [back home] says, "yeah, from 6 to 11"

VanceS [back home] says, "it's just after 1 here not"

VanceS [back home] says, "now"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "not much, but I guess you

catch up tonight"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Daf posted some great

questions, a lot to chew on"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Sus posted the chat log,

that was good"

VanceS [back home] says, "Hey Chris, I found the driver I need"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'm going to pop offline and see if I can get it onto my dsl box"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'm on my dialup now, bit of a pain"

VanceS [back home] says, "With DSL I can check webheads email at the site"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] exclaims, "great!"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "OK, I'm not sure how long

I can hang out today"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "but I'll wait at least

till you get back on"

VanceS [back home] asks, "how long you figure?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] asks, "another half hour?"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok, give me 20 min then to either get it working or get back to you"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "OK, sounds good"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok, be back by 10 GMT"

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [back home] has disconnected.

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VanceS teleports to the reception.

Stopped recording in VanceS's Office (#12249) at Fri Feb 14 01:43:03 2003 PST.

Started recording in Reception (#268)[TappedIn] at Fri Feb 14 01:43:03 2003 PST.

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "cooking Mexican food for

15 people"

DafneG says, "you are throwing a big party"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "yes"

DafneG says, "wow"

VanceS [back home] smells something cooking

DafneG says, "hi Vance"

DafneG asks, "how was the hiking?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "and I'm throwing another

one at my sports club this eve"

VanceS [back home] says, "walked 13 hours yesterday"

DafneG says, "Happy Valentine's VAnce"

VanceS [back home] says, "last 5 in moonling"

VanceS [back home] says, "moonlight"

DafneG exclaims, "beautiful!"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Moonlight in Oman - sounds

good to me (with a lday, that is)"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "lady"

DafneG . o O ( oh Chris is romantic! )

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "yeah, moonlight in the

desert has that affect"

DafneG says, "cooking mexican food is tyring, too many things to cut in small chunks"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "we won't start on the

starlight :-)"

VanceS [back home] says, "my lady was walking slowly, that's why it took so long"

VanceS [back home] says, "also had two kids along"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "that's the hard part"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "who wants to walk fast

when you have moonlight"

DafneG says, "sure"

VanceS [back home] asks, "who's cooking mexican food?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "me"

DafneG says, "Chris"

VanceS [back home] says, "hmmm"

VanceS [back home] asks, "having both your ladies over?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "tomorrow: quacamole,

enchiladas, tacos, fajitas"

DafneG says, "it does not sound so good when you are waking up"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] ..noes, one of them couldn't make

it ..s not a problem.

DafneG says, "but after 2 it will sound great to me"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] can eat Mexican food at all hours

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "huevos rancheros for

breakfast, for example"

DafneG says, "I love it, but it is heavy"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "true, very heavy"

VanceS [back home] says, "if it's real mex food and not tex or california mex knock off, it's the best food there is"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "hey Vance, CA, Tex, New

Mex are all legitimate styles"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] trying to look like a Mexican

food connaisseur while swigging a beer :-)

VanceS [back home] says, "true, and delicious in their own right"

DafneG says, "I have some mexican friends and they always invite me to eat, once they were cooking for 8 hours a "mole" with 8 different kinds of meat including snake"

VanceS [back home] says, "but Mexicans in Mexico use the freshest ingredients and it's just truly wonderful food"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "whoa.....mole and

snake....haven't tried that (yet)"

VanceS [back home] says, "Mole with real chocolate from Oaxaca, the very very best"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Mole form Oaxaca is pretty

dang good"

VanceS [back home] says, "nothing sweet about that chocolate, bitter in fact"

DafneG says, "that's the chocolate I like, black and bitter"

VanceS [back home] says, "always wondered what that looong stringy meat was"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Daf, I love bitter

chocolate. I thought I was the only one in the world"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "long stringy meat =

machaca"

DafneG says, "We have very good chocolate in Venezuela, as a matter of fact most of the European chocolate is made out of our chocolate"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "I actually tested my

Mexican cooking on a friend from Oaxaca - she liked it - either that or was polite :-)"

VanceS [back home] asks, "machaca, is it really a kind of meat?"

DafneG says, "chocolate from Chuao"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "oh...thought the Swiss and

Belgians made it"

VanceS [back home] says, "sounds like we need another web page, cooking with chocolate"

DafneG says, "the base is chocolate from Chuao"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Machaca = shredded beef

(at least in CA and Baja CA)"

DafneG says, "yes, right Vance"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "sounds good to me"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "glad I had a meal before I

talked to you 2 today; otherwise, would be dying"

DafneG says, "lol"

VanceS [back home] says, "We need Chris to weigh in with some mexican reciepies"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "OK, enchiladas coming up"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "will do"

DafneG says, "I wonder why we always include food in our conversations"

VanceS [back home] asks, "recipies?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "guacamole, too"

VanceS [back home] asks, "because that other topic is not mentioned in polite company?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "hmmm....flowers should be

arriving just about now"

DafneG says, "lol"

VanceS [back home] asks, "the flying flowers?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "yep, being delivered to

Kehl - across the border from Strasbourg"

DafneG says, "oh, Chris, when I came here yesterday with my 3-corner hat you had left"

VanceS [back home] says, "you are sending flowers to Kehl ..."

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "I saw it on the mailing

list"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] exclaims, "thanks, Daf!!!!"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "Indeed (sending flowers to

Kehl)"

DafneG says, "this is "madrugada" for me"

VanceS [back home] asks, "and might one inquire as to the purpose of sending flowers to Kehl?"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] asks, "madrugada???"

DafneG says, "Valentine's"

DafneG says, "(very early in the morning"

VanceS [back home] says, "not that it's any of my business, but you did call attention to it in your mood, ergo ..."

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "madrugada = Valentine's"

DafneG says, "no"

DafneG says, "early in the morning"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "the purpose of sending

flowers to Kehl is Valentine's"

ChristopherMJ [hoping the flowers fly] says, "I hope it flies"

DafneG says, "people have been lazy this week"

ChristopherMJ looks back to business.

VanceS [back home] says, "how nice, I must take Bobbi out for a dinner somewhere ..."

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "good idea, Vance"

VanceS [back home] gets quickly back to business

DafneG says, "she will appreciate it"

ChristopherMJ [to DafneG]: "thanks a lot for posting the questions"

DafneG says, "lol"

VanceS [back home] asks, "so the theory of CoPs has not struck the correct resonance with our timorous masses?"

DafneG says, "Sus complained that there were too many questions"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "really gets back on track. I

think people were sick of the theoory"

VanceS [back home] says, "I think that's the interesting part, esp the way Chris has laid it out"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] admires Vance's delicate and tactful

choice of words

VanceS [back home] says, "but doing it is equally important"

VanceS [back home] says, "what we're trying to do in these sessions is look into the theory of what we're doing"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I thought the theatre angle

would be more relevant"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "something folks could sink their teeth into"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "then branch off into what were

doing"

DafneG says, "I asked questions from a teacher's point of view"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] exclaims, "that was great, Daf!"

DafneG says, "but it did not work either"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Maybe people are burning out

from 4 plus weeks of this"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "just a thought"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] asks, "what do you think?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "brb"

VanceS [back home] says, "last week it was slow up to Sunday, then the video chats and boom"

DafneG says, "Don who used to post a lot is busy with his yahoo group"

VanceS [back home] says, "no big deal, if you follow the other sessions I think ours tops the list in interactivity"

DafneG says, "and Arnold who inspired me dicussing about reflection has not shown up"

VanceS [back home] says, "quality of interaction esp"

DafneG says, "yes, in the other lists people send assignments"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Assignments and CoP activity

don't mix IMHO"

VanceS [back home] says, "I think we've talked about this a bit"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes, already"

VanceS [back home] says, "exactly, it gets right back to paradigms appropriate to what we're doiong"

DafneG says, "yes, that is not real interaction"

VanceS [back home] says, "that's a traditional education paradigm"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] agrees

DafneG says, "process vs. product"

VanceS [back home] says, "in our session ,each person makes his own assignment (his/her)"

DafneG says, "sometimes I overdo ;-)"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Nigel had a real good come back

on the process vs. product posting. I was dead impressed"

VanceS [back home] says, "and some people just aren't in the mood for assigning themselves more work this week"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'll read that first thing, that's cool"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "not really assigning something

but thinking about it and responding"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "that would have been cool"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Maybe that's harder than an assignment ?? :-)"

DafneG says, "it is"

VanceS [back home] says, "well, the whole point of online interaction is you go off hiking for a few days, come back and self pace yourself into rejoining the group"

VanceS [back home] says, "lots of individuals do that and feel comfy doing it and your group lasts a long time"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] notes the change from hiking boots to

running shoes

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes"

DafneG says, "Aiden, Buth and I had a great planning meeting for our week 5"

VanceS [back home] says, "if you have one person or group making assignments than that is top down and good for only so long as you can sustain the force from the top"

VanceS [back home] listens to daf

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "good point, Vance"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] listens to Daf, too

DafneG says, "common I am going to be shy"

VanceS [back home] strains to hear daf

ChristopherMJ . o O ( no need to be shy among friends )

DafneG says, "we only had 1 and a half hour"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes, read about it"

VanceS [back home] says, "I haven't read it yet, something else I'll be sure and give more than a moment to"

DafneG says, "and we were so concentrated in our work, that we discussed all the issues, made jokes and the work got done"

VanceS [back home] asks, "is there anything I should be doing with your portal page?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "great example"

VanceS [back home] says, "Buth has been a great model Webhead"

DafneG says, "yes, maybe eliminating all the stuff below the url to our portal"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok, will do today"

DafneG says, "Everything is on our page now"

ChristopherMJ [to VanceS]: "I think you can wait till the week's over and throw the chat logs and relevant postings in"

DafneG says, "sure"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "but that would be about it, I

would think"

DafneG says, "We have some surprises"

VanceS [to Chris]: "was that directed at me or Daf?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "either one"

DafneG says, "about what, what"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "whoever is updating the portal

page"

VanceS [back home] says, "For Week 4 I'll make a summary like the one Daf started us on"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "cool"

VanceS [back home] says, "It's my responsibility as presenter at our colloquium"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "thanks"

DafneG says, "I am preparing a page with pre and post-webheads experiences"

DafneG says, "about me"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "hmmm...anything I should do"

VanceS [back home] says, "well, thank you, as you continually contribute to our presentation"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "no prob"

VanceS [back home] says, "you can comment on my summary once it's done"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "will do"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I'm sure it will be fine"

VanceS [back home] says, "I've got to restart windows in a minute"

DafneG says, "I have a question about myself that I have not been able to answer"

VanceS [back home] asks, "what question is that Daf?"

ChristopherMJ [to DafneG]: "thank you, Daf, you were a major part in making this week a success"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] listening to Daf's question

VanceS [back home] says, "maybe we can answer it for you ;-)"

DafneG says, "why is it that for me going from f2f to online was not difficult at all"

DafneG says, "I felt so confident doing it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "complicated question"

DafneG says, "yes, I have been thinking hard about it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "maybe because you concentrate on content and ideas"

VanceS [back home] asks, "question for me: why do I flourish in an online environment but have greater difficulty f2f?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "and not as much on emotions and underlying messages"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "maybe the same thing"

DafneG says, "the only possible answer that I have found"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] listening intently

DafneG says, "is that I am doing just what I do f2f but through web tools, and I found here in Webheads the right guidance to make the transition"

DafneG says, "if I had been a traditional f2f teacher it would not have been easy"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "webheads is a great group"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I am a traditional f2f teacher -

I like it, but I always liked playing with computers"

VanceS [back home] says, "To me, webheads is just what comes naturally"

DafneG says, "well, I never did"

DafneG says, "yes, that's it, Vance"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Webheads has a good atmosphere - friendly, open"

DafneG says, "I am very fluent in my f2f teaching, very open-minded and flexible"

VanceS [back home] says, "the only unusual thing about it has been discovering there are so many others to whom it comes naturally"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I have a question"

VanceS [back home] says, "however in my workplace, yours too perhaps, you are surrounded by people to whom it is the most UNnatural thing in the world"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "we all have this interest in

trying online tools in teaching, etc."

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "That was JUST what I was about to type, Vance"

VanceS [back home] says, "yes, our true counterparts are in this online environment"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "we are usually alone in our workplace"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "the physical one"

DafneG says, "my reluctancy about computer was because of the software programs, I mean the behaviorist type"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "your reluctance was totally understandable, Daf"

DafneG says, "I have never liked them. So when I found that there was another way to teaching with comp. I was hooked"

VanceS [back home] says, "yes, I've been working with CALL for decades and throughout the early software days always KNEW there was more potential in the mediumt than was being exploited"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] asks, "the CMC aspect, you mean?"

DafneG says, "yes"

VanceS [back home] says, "and now with the tools we are using now we're over the hump"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes"

VanceS [back home] says, "exactly, we've tapped the mother lode but still haven't found the exact fluid interface"

VanceS [back home] says, "perhaps one of us will develop it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "there's still a lot more to do"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "that's the fun of it"

DafneG says, "that will be Chris"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] bows respectfully with his hands

together to Daf

DafneG says, "lol"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "we'll see"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Vance will probably get there

first - no objects here"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "no objections, I mean"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'm not getting anywhere first. the movement depends on the interaction with others, so we're all heading there together"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I can hang with that (So Cal

slang = I can live with that)"

DafneG says, "You know people at my department still feel chats are useless"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] exclaims, "Let's do it together - viva Webheads!"

DafneG says, "Viva"

VanceS [back home] says, "actually Chris, with your focused study on CoPs you're well positioned to get somewhere first"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I'm sending off the proposal on Monday"

VanceS [back home] says, "what proposal"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Chapter 3 (Methodology) is

finsihed"

DafneG says, "ah"

VanceS [back home] says, "ahhh, can't wait to read it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "My dissertation"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "will send you the draft (you have the 1st 2 chapters already)"

DafneG says, "You bit me, Chris, I am still working on it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "will send the updated Chapters

1,2,3 - and short 4 with project outcomes"

VanceS [back home] asks, "we have the first two?"

VanceS [back home] asks, "where?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "It's all done (thinak God)"

VanceS [back home] asks, "online?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I emailed it a while back"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "No, e-mailed drafts to Sus, you, Daf, Tere, & John"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I think Daf's bounced bac"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "back"

VanceS [back home] says, "yikes if it came as an attachment I may have canned it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "No prob, will send you the latest version"

VanceS [back home] asks, "can you send it to me at work?"

DafneG says, "send it to: dafne_gonzalez@yahoo.com"

VanceS [back home] says, "v.stevens@mli.ac.ae"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "you got it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Please don't distribute it"

VanceS [back home] says, "np"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I need to get it approved"

VanceS [back home] says, "I can hang with that"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "but you guys can have a sneak preview"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "LOL"

DafneG says, "thank you, Chris"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "my pleasure"

DafneG says, "I need to get serious with my Meth. chapter"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "My profs will find something

wrong with it"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "no doubt, but then I will

tighten it up per their suggestions"

VanceS [back home] says, "about chats, I like to try to explain to people in a phone analogy"

VanceS [back home] says, "phones have been around a while, chats haven't"

VanceS [back home] says, "people waste time on phones and sometimes use them efficients"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Do you know the anecdote about

the origin of "hello""

VanceS [back home] says, "efficiently"

DafneG agrees with VAnce

VanceS [back home] says, "same with chats, sometimes a waste of time, sometimes VERY effective"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes, good point (about

efficiency)"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "absolutely"

VanceS [back home] says, "depend on how you structure the task, as with a phone"

DafneG says, "right"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "Also, "hello" was an example that people did not know how to use the phone"

VanceS [back home] says, "chats will eventually be as commonplace as phones"

DafneG says, "and you need to be able to get the important threads out of it"

VanceS [back home] listens to Chris

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "hello" was orignally a shout in

the woods to see if anyone was around in a several mile radius"

DafneG says, "people are used to have the information organized for them"

DafneG asks, "really?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "that's the original meaning of "hello" - no joke"

VanceS [back home] asks, "like now, when we connect with voice chat, it's always, can you hear me?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes"

VanceS [back home] says, "at some point we'll take it for granted we can be heard"

DafneG says, "sure"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "when they fix the bandwidth

problem"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "universally"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I need to get going"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "have to prepare something"

VanceS [back home] says, "seen in the bigger picture, chat's will soon be as ubiquitous as phone"

DafneG says, "have a great party, Chris"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok, nice to talk to you Chris (and Daf)"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "yes, Vance - agreed"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "great talking to you both as

well"

VanceS [back home] says, "I've got to get on with installing this dsl driver"

DafneG says, "I will go back to my diss"

VanceS [back home] asks, "shall I put this chat on our web page?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "I think we an leave TI empty for

a while"

VanceS [back home] always tries to ask first, remember

DafneG says, "sure, why not"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "fine with me - putting chat up"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok, consider it done"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "OK, have a great day, Vance &

Daf"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'll review the email shortly, and nice to see you both"

DafneG says, "well, guys, see youlater"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "bye"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'll hang out a few minutes"

VanceS [back home] says, "I have to un-install my old driver"

DafneG asks, "why?"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "OK, I can hang with that....and

hang in there :-)"

VanceS [back home] says, "then I'll be prompted to restart windows"

ChristopherMJ [back to business] says, "bye"

VanceS [back home] says, "I'm on a dialup now because DSL isn't working"

DafneG says, "oh I see"

VanceS [back home] says, "going to try to install an updated driver"

You hear a quiet popping sound; ChristopherMJ [back to business] has

disconnected.

VanceS [back home] says, "family is not happy with the loss of connectivity"

DafneG says, "is it the driver or the modem"

VanceS [back home] says, "modem is not connecting"

VanceS [back home] says, "connects but won't stay connected"

DafneG says, "I had my modem changed last year"

DafneG says, "hope it lasts"

VanceS [back home] says, "sometimes that will resolve the problem"

DafneG says, "well, I need to go, to the supermarket and then come back to work on my diss"

DafneG says, "this evening there is achat with O'Neil"

DafneG asks, "is it written like that?"

VanceS [back home] asks, "who?"

VanceS [back home] asks, "where?"

DafneG says, "here at TI"

DafneG says, "Elizabeth's ssession"

VanceS [back home] asks, "what time?"

DafneG says, "21 I think"

VanceS [back home] says, "too late for me"

DafneG says, "I will send you the log"

VanceS [back home] says, "1 a.m my time"

VanceS [back home] says, "ok"

DafneG says, "you will be out for dinner"

VanceS [back home] says, "I hope so"

VanceS [back home] says, "why not"

DafneG says, "a nice romantic evening for Val. Day"

DafneG says, "not bad"

VanceS [back home] asks, "what about you, any special thing for Valentine's?"

DafneG says, "not really"

DafneG says, "I am not in a social mood lately"

VanceS [back home] gives you a special valentine hug

DafneG says, "thanks"

DafneG says, "any way I have never celebrated V. D"

DafneG says, "only at school with the students"

DafneG asks, "want to see the page I am creating?"

VanceS [back home] says, "sure, project"

DafneG says, "wait"

DafneG projects the URL:

http://dafnegon.tripod.com/myjourneywithwebheads/

VanceS [back home] asks, "was Buth an inspiration?"

VanceS [back home] asks, "before and after?"

DafneG says, "yes, We have been discussing the idea for a while"

VanceS [back home] says, "That's very kind, amazing that you are moved to create a web page"

VanceS [back home] says, "documenting this kind of thing"

DafneG says, "we thought this was a way to show others in week 5 about our transition"

VanceS [back home] says, "indicative of an introspective, inquisitive, and documenting personality"

VanceS [back home] says, "a scientific mind"

DafneG says, "well, I have not looked at it that way, but maybe"

VanceS [back home] says, "you'll make a great follow-on to week 4"

VanceS [back home] says, "for you it's personal, but these other aspects enter into it"

DafneG says, "and we decided to kick off answering Scott's uestions"

VanceS [back home] says, "really interesting sessions, these"

DafneG says, "yes, I am enjoying them"

DafneG says, "we have our strategic plan for the week"

DafneG says, "we are concerned that Arlyn has not communicated with us"

VanceS [back home] says, "must be something personal since she's usually a good communicator"

VanceS [back home] says, "but things come up, and there are others to carry the load"

DafneG says, "yes, We have sent messages but there is no answer"

DafneG says, "we have everything ready"

VanceS [back home] says, "it can be embarrassing for someone who's committed to not be able to fulfill the online commitment"

DafneG says, "yes, I know"

VanceS [back home] says, "but I don't see it that way"

DafneG says, "we are just worried in case she is sick or something like that"

VanceS [back home] says, "anyway, she's a contributor in so many other ways"

VanceS [back home] says, "yeah, hope she's ok"

VanceS [back home] says, "maybe just on holiday"

DafneG says, "she was working hard"

DafneG says, "she will show up eventually I am sure"

DafneG says, "anyhow, we are ready to start on Monday"

DafneG says, "actually, Sunday evening"

VanceS [back home] says, "cool, the show must go on"

VanceS [back home] says, "we'll hand off after the Sunday chat"

DafneG says, "well, Vance gotta go"

VanceS [back home] says, "yeah me too"

DafneG exclaims, "have a nice day!"

VanceS [back home] says, "nice talking to you"

DafneG says, "nice talking to you"

DafneG says, "lol"

VanceS [back home] says, "you too, hope you get a surprise valentine"

You hear a quiet popping sound; DafneG has disconnected.

You hear a quiet popping sound; VanceS [back home] has disconnected.

Disconnected from TAPPED IN on Fri Feb 14 02:54:10 2003 PST.